Girl Interrupted
Hearing Belinda Stronach talking out of the side of her little snakish mouth to the CBC after her bail-out presser yesterday really enraged me. I hate to get all serious on yo' asses today, but the fact that people even contemplated her as victor illustrates the sorry state of politics in Canada. Look, I am no Gerard Kennedy fan club member. He is wonkish and reserved and packs all the star punch of a librarian on Qualudes. But as least he is experienced, smart and from all accounts, motivated by altruistic impulses.Belinda Stronach is a smug, silver-spooned, she-ain't-pretty-she-just-looks-that-way Daddy's girl, who displays the disgusting amoral opportunism so revered in incestuous private sector executive circles.
Nice excuse as well. If you want to reform the party costitution, wouldn't it make sense to become leader, and then steer the ship on a course of change? She might as well have said "I'm not running because I don't want to join your stupid club anyways". She should stick to the clubs she is used to- of the country variety. They are right up her alley, since they take no effort at all to get into- just reputation and cash.
posted by K-Dough at 7:20 AM
61 Comments:
Gerard is pretty hot, actually.
He's a dipstick. An attractive dipstick, but a dipstick.
Homo- I didn't say he was or wasn't hot. I said he is a buzz killer.
K-Dough called it.
Gerard is boooooooooooooooooring. (And has a messiah-complex).
I have noticed that. But then, they are all on crack.
Did you know Jason Cherniak, in Liberal blogging circles, is considered a master?
The guy can't put two coherent thoughts together and he's constantly hitting people up for money - to protect him from the lawsuit that's never going to come.
K-Dough, if only the Liberal bloggers were an ounce as funny as you, we might be in trouble.
Chucker: From what Cherniak writes, I think he is a naive, shiny-nosed, geeky, young politico wannabe. Those young anythings (Libs/Consevatives etc) obssess over politicans and parties like dreamy 12 year old Britney fans.
They are part of the reason our democracy is fucked. Those unquestioning cultish kids, that may or may not have a flimsy BA in political science, are hired into political offices for shit money.
In the process, they are transformed from awkward university undergrad students into bloated egomaniacs. Then they make huge decisions about the future of our country that they are clearly not qualified to make.
It's ridiculous.
BTW- Chucker- those lib bloggers dislike me. Even though I'm fairly centred in my political views (although I try to remain non-partisan when considering all public poliicy) they are like little fucking Spocks - they are lacking the gene to comprehend humour.
Not to mention, never once have anyone of them ever addresed points and questions I've repeatedly raised with them about the democratic crisis we are currently experiencing- that they are a huge part of.
Cherniak is the Liberal party's Adam Daifallah - a little social and political climber bound for coat-tail riding and umbrella carrying.
Good post, K - though it's interesting that your post (without the humour, natch) could have been written by a Liberal about a year ago.
K-Dough, no one could dislike you. I refuse to believe it. Nope. I'm verging on asking you to be godfather to my next kid.
Chucker: Surprisingly, I can be a little aggressive, loud, inslutting, and even know-it-allish. I know that may be hard for y'all to see, since I am usually quite docile online, but in real life it's true.
In those cases, I just try to apologize to the offended (because I am generally unaware they have been offended until I hear the clap of my mouth shutting and it's too late) and move on.
If they chose not to move on- fuck 'em.
Kevvyd: funny you say that- I actually was a Liberal about a year ago!
Thnx for the kudo.
K-Dough, Awesome post dude. Princess B is seriously getting on my nerves. That spin BS I heard over and over on the news was a major eye-roller. I was even irritated by her cold, tinny speaking voice. The press has no need to worry about the current restrictions from Harper; the Libs will obviously continue to supply endless pathetic comedy for some time.
As for Gerard....I still remember when he was the chosen one for the Ontario leader, but was wiped off the floor by then no-name Dalton.
Liberals should be cleaning house and developing some kind of policy first, no?
leather: Thnx. I agree about the need for policy development. Unfortunately, it seems they are still navel gazing. Granted, they do need to be looking at leaders. I just hope the breadth and quality opens up over the course of the next few months.
Thnx for the kudos J-dog! ER: Dion-its hard because I try to stay away from what everyone else and their fucking cat is writing about. Sometimes it's as plain as a nose though....
For the life of me, I can't understand why Celine Dion is running for Liberal Leadership. Will her big-ass boat never sink???
And the face of a homely young man.
Fits the description of a couple of rock sluts I met in the 80s at the Gasworks.
Yeah K, there's no place like a heavy rock club to see that pushed-up compressed rocket-cleavage. Thank God for dim lighting though...
Dim lighting defines my life.
Even in our house- we keep mostly orange bulbs in all the sockets cuz everything looks so much better. Even me!
Unless I'm out in the sun- which I love- it's gotta be dim dammit!
K-Dough LOL!
Pam, I'll have a go at the rock slut question as well. The amount of women in the audience decreases proportionately with how heavy the band is. This forces the few remaining women to show as much cleavage and midriff as possible, in order to distinguish themselves from the guys in the crowd, most of whom are prettier. They are unfairly labeled 'rock-sluts" by the band. (The guys are labeled "punters" which to me is more degrading.)
Ten years on however, the term "rock slut" became more encompassing, now including musicians who jump between multiple bands....whoever has a good paying gig on any given night.
I believe drummer Randy Cooke is the original rock slut in this context.
Ha! Cooke is the original is he?
Fun-eeeeee.
In my own personal lexicon, the term rock slut has now loosely* morphed into either cougar or MILF. Both are equally appealing to me. Is it just me or is it a coincidence that cougars and MILFS aesthetically look like Rock sluts?
*Pls. excuse the loosely pun.
BTW- how do we always evolve to this point? What is wrong with us?
K-Dough your comment at 10:02 was very wrong. I don't think anyone in their 40s have the right to critize young people in politics. If there is anything wrong with our democracy it is because people your age and all the baby boomers have made it so. Don't put the blame of your wrongs on young people. It is you, older people who have made politics all about gaining power instead of thinking about real issues and dedicating themselves to finding real solutions for them. Young people in politics are not only poli-sci students, other young people are also interested but it is because of your kind of negative feedback that many young people don't even know who is the PM of this country. Young people have learned to expect nothing from older politicians because politics has turned into a game of gaining power. And when a few young people get the courage to talk about real issues you try to degrade them by this:
"naive, shiny-nosed, geeky, young politico wannabe...They are part of the reason our democracy is fucked. Those unquestioning cultish kids, that may or may not have a flimsy BA in political science, are hired into political offices for shit money.
In the process, they are transformed from awkward university undergrad students into bloated egomaniacs. Then they make huge decisions about the future of our country that they are clearly not qualified to make."
So exactly what has people your age done to improve this country???
Nothing but destroying it piece by piece.
Thanks for clarifying that for me.I think I know rock sluts that fall into both categories. I always wondered why the women were so rough looking in bars that played harder rock. I'm always a little nervous aroung those tough chicks. They hate me.
Pam, now we know you're hot. Rock sluts hate chicks that are good looking. (Competition.)
Joanne, wow what a post. I'll leave it alone, as K-Dough is more than capable of a response...but calling us people in our forties "old" is borderline hilarious.
LH, if you are in you forties, you about 20 years older than me.So I consider you old.
Joanne- first of all- I'm not in my 40s- not that that matters. Age is not the basis of my point. The same could be said for political cultists country-wide. People, who, because of a very narrow and simplistic understanding of ideology, or insipid devotion to a personality, follow without question.
Secondly, it sounds like I hit a nerve. I'm guessing you are a political science student (first year?).
My point about that was that even if you do make it to the end of your bachelor's degree, you haven't learned shit, except rudimentary methodological and theoretical underpinnings. Even grad students a lot of the time, don't get it.
I used to be shocked sitting in PhD seminars with students who still hadn't moved past even that linear thinking point.
Poly-sci is not a science. It's a pseudo-science that tried to adopt Durkheimian precepts in order to maintain its favour with university infrastructures in the early 1900s, because it was being made irrelevant by real science.
Demographics and Cartesian analysis bear little validity to thetask of understanding human nature, which is what politics is all about. Those who believe Adam Smith, or Marx for that matter, can teach you how to govern a province or state are infants in the world of public policy, and indeed, in critical analysis.
You can't quantify
non-quantifiable data- i.e. qualitative phenomena.
And as far as you calling us old goes, that just demonstrates your youthful naievete. Not that we needed you to say that to get it.
K-Dough, you did hit a nerve with this:
"They are part of the reason our democracy is fucked."
What are you taling about??? What ever has happened to our democracy is because a few power hungry people in their 40s to 70s can only think about gaining power instead of finding solutions to our problems.
And for your info, I am not a poli-sci student but a civil engineering student yet I am still interested in politics and once the old people are gone from the political scene we will have a great country that will be the envy of everyone.
Actually Joanne, I'm in the second half of my forties. I still love most of the same things I loved in my twenties. I don't even look all that different, other than a few extra lines on the face. I also know about a billion more things than I did in my twenties.
As will you.
Joanne- it may surprise you to learn that those 40-70 year olds are backed by younger staffers- most under the age of 30. They are making policy. They are drafting speeches and coming up with communications strategies. You don't know that because you have no experience in such things.
And you have never been backstage at a Bon Jovi concert. Wait let me get the generational reference right: an N Sync concert.
Next time I go on a rant about the democratization of higher education, pls drop by and let me know what you think so I have a dynamic specimen to dissect.
LH, I already know what I will look like in my late forties because I am a carbon copy of my mother. As for likes, yes I still like the things I liked when I was a kid. When I was in middle school I started supporting liberals because my family did it but as I grew older, I found the real reasons behind my support for them and I can say this that i will still be a liberal when I am in my 100s.
I haven't seen anyone in the Liberal party or Cons who are advisers or Policy makers for their leaders under the aage of 30.
And whatever happened to the widely known fact that there are not enough young people in politics.
joanne,
I think leather's point was that we learn as we go...we are all much smarter than when we were in our 20s. I thought I knew it all back then. Now I know I knew very little.
God, I hope I don't look like my mother someday. Jesus.
K,
Have you been backstage at a Bon Jovi concert?
oy vey Joanne- you don't make it easy do you?
We are approaching the threshold limit of K-Dough's obsenity trigger.
Pam- yes, but I was really drunk and on E. So, whatever you've heard is either not true, or happened during the 2.5 hours in which I blacked out.
Thanks Pam for articulating my point. My big fear is that I'm peaked out now, and will slowly get stupider.
K, I was thinking of going into PoliSci this year...you just scared the shit outta me.
leather- that is a good thing. it is important to have empty bowels when you start a new discipline. lots of room to fill up with more.
Ah, I saw them a couple of years ago. Jon came out and said "Our females fans are like fine wine...they just get better with age". Smooth, smooth, smooth. And I ended up really, really drunk that night on $9 a bottle Corel Centre beer.So whatever you heard about me is likely true, but I don't remember.
"We are approaching the threshold limit of K-Dough's obsenity trigger."
I would like to see that. Wonderful entertainment for the weekend.
But I still strongly believe you are absolutely wrong when you accuse people under 30 of destroying our democracy. Go take a walk and the fresh air might clear some of the fog from your brain and calm you down before you transform into squidward and go on a swearing rampage.
Forgot that it is raining in TO. Even more delightful for a walk.
WARNING
Joanne is on a no-holds-barred shit-flinging tear today, filling Chucker's blog with equally outrageous statements. Do not make things worse by responding.
Joanne, please come back when you are feeling better.
K Dough, political science isn't a pseudo science, it's a science that has yet to find its paradigms. You should go read some Thomas Kuhn for a fleshing out of the fact that many of the so-called "hard sciences" only recently found their own unifying theoretical underpinnings.
And just because political science had a particular kind of genesis in a particular kind of methodology doesn't mean it's then constrained by it. Aristotle pretty much invented biology but that doesn't mean Stephen Jay Gould's science is the heir to Aristotle's.
As for not being able to "quantify qualitative data", what does that matter? There are qualitative elements in any kind of data from any kind of source, even in the vaunted hard sciences - have you ever heard of the Quine-Duhem hypothesis?
This doesn't mean then that whole edifice of knowledge collapses around us, rather that things are much more holistic and connected than most people would care to admit. Forgetting that fact is pretty linear thinking.
Anyway, before knocking people down on a way of thinking you've assumed they have, like Joanne, you should take a run at some of your own intellectual assumptions.
Joanne: Screw the walk- I am going to take a short subway ride to a vast beer paradise in a bit.
As far as the obsenity onslaught- it can't be translated via electronic devices dear. It is definitely a "see it in the flesh" kind of phenomenon.
Pam- actually that may have been the show I was at. You don't happen to have any blonde children do you?
In fact I DO have blonde children........;)
And it's Friday afternoon. I don't think it's the time for shit-slinging fest unless someone is buying the beer and we are sitting around a table. In that case, you'll have my undivided attention.
Anonymous: Indeed, I have read The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, you should know that. Name dropping does nothing to bolster your criticism in my eyes.
Methodologies and theories are highly subjective heuristic attempts by humans to structure thought. I agree that there needs to be wholism in interpretation. That is precisely what I practice and preach.
I didn't say political science was constrained because of its particular genesis. I said it was a pile of bullshit.
By the way- your hiding behind anonymous comments doesn't preclude my ability to surmise who you are, since I just checked your IP address. Welcome back to argument after a long self-imposed hiatus.
Pam:
So do I!
No shit slinging going on here. Shows over kids. Nothing sensational to see here.
Joanne- let's kiss and go to sleep ok?
I figured you'd find me out through statcounter, but I thought, what the hell...I just saw "Durkheim" and the spirit moved me.
You didn't say poli sci was constrained by its origins, but you certainly inferred it. And it's not name dropping, it's citing.
While we're on that, is there such a thing as an unstructured thought? Do theories come before coherence?
Anonymous: BTW- congrats on all your "changes".
You asked- Do theories come before coherence? I dunno. Joanne seems to have theories. What would we infer from that?
Joanne? She was reacting, as was I.
If you don't like the tone of the commentary, you are entirely welcome to blow me.
How's about you go and be a fair, rational guy over on your blog then, Mr. Smug.
Does his blog have comments?
Pam: I won't answer that on that grounds that it may drag out a dialogue I would prefer were done with.
If you want to take an admission of my own responsibility for the past as a wild overrreaction on my part as not liking the tone of commentary on your blog, go right ahead. It's probably better that way anyway.
Anonymous: Cryptic comments are difficult to decipher in such a forum. If you have something to say pls do say it through a slightly more formal medium....
I am receptive.
I withdraw my earlier assholeness and leave it to you.
But alas, beer calls.....
Okay, that's what I thought.
Ciao
K-Dough,
what the hell happened hear? You've got this loony tune talking about Hans Kuhn. Oh yeah, let's get a physics lesson from Hans Kuhn.
and you called it right: political science is bullshit and shouldn't call itself anything but political studies.
sounds like someone's writing a thesis which, of course, makes them feel like gods in their little cubicle up there on the top floor of the library.
Fine K-Dough!
K-dough: "I can't believe the amount of fucking wonky liberals out there saying he is the greatest."
That's because he's hot!
Chucker: "Did you know Jason Cherniak, in Liberal blogging circles, is considered a master? The guy can't put two coherent thoughts together" -- kinda like Ezra Levant?
K-dough: "Those young anythings (Libs/Consevatives etc) obssess over politicans and parties like dreamy 12 year old Britney fans."
-- An apt analogy.
Pam, they hate you because you are beautiful.
"Methodologies and theories are highly subjective heuristic attempts by humans to structure thought."
-- Ah, shit, who started him talking about heuristic shit again. I keep telling you guys, you get him going on this philosophy bs and he'll never shut up!
Chucker- thnx dude.
homo,
you can have Ezra Levant. Please. Convert him. Turn him to the other team.
Chucker: No. He's yours, you keep him.
no, I insist. Here you go. (immense heaving sound). There. He's yours.
"Do theories come before coherence? I dunno. Joanne seems to have theories. What would we infer from that? "
K-dough, you wouldn't be trying to say I have no coherence with this comment of yours, would you???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Joanne- now really. Would you reallly expect that kind of talk from me?
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