Wednesday, October 10, 2007

Cry Baby Tory Blaming Others

When questioned today about why he included funding for faith-based schools in his platform, even though 3 years ago his party knew it would flop, John "Cry Baby" Tory said: "I never had control of the message." Hm. If the central issue of this election was leadership, does it sound very leader-like for the leader of a party to have never had control of his own party's message?

Then, blaming the media for his dismal performance, he said "Did I say it (faith-based school funding) was the issue of the campaign? Never once."

Who the fuck cares what you say is the issue of the campaign John Q. Tory? You released your platform and people focussed on what they wanted to focus on. That's democracy John, you spoiled, corporate hollow man. Take off the tear-stained dress and suck it up princess.

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Anonymous gwgm said...

Hi K-Dough,

Haven't been around in a while, but stopped by on the eve of destruction.

Congrats on your imminent victory. But IMO, there is no glory in it. There are more important things than winning (I wouldn't make much of a politician), such as personal integrity and fighting discrimination, regardless of the result.

Obviously, Tory's promise to fund the terrorist training schools (Liberal whisper campaign) was political suicide.

But from my perspective, his only mistake was going back on his pledge to treat all of Ontario's children the same, regardless of race/religion.

Fighting to end state-sponsored discrimination is never the wrong thing to do, no matter the political fallout.

The Liberals did a brilliant job of waving the intolerant shiny beads in front of the voters, deflecting their focus from the blemishes on the Liberal record.

If I were Tory, rather than point fingers at the media or the Liberals, I would look into the camera and point my finger at the people of Ontario who surrendered to the darkest side of their nature.

I would tell them that it's anti-Canadian to treat people differently because of their sex/race/religion. No amount of spin will change what has happened here. Children in this province will continue to have / not have their educations paid for based on their religion, and that is the definition of discrimination.

I would tell the voters that it's a good thing for African-Americans that it wasn't the Ontario Liberal Party and the voters of this province in charge when the time came to rock the boat against segregation in the south. Just because something is institutionalized doesn't mean it shouldn't be changed.

I would tell the voters that the schools they're so afraid of already exist.

I would tell Ontarians that if their biggest fear is what is going on in Muslim schools, the dumbest thing in the world would be to further ostracize 'them' by refusing to fund 'their' schools while funding other religious schools.

If elections are solely about winning, then the Liberals are to be congratulated.

But if democracy is about doing the right thing for all citizens, then the Liberals should be ashamed. They played the 'race' card and made people scared of their fellow citizens.

Unfortunately, rather than being punished by the people and the press for this disgusting tactic, they got a nudge, nudge, wink, wink of approval.

9:57 PM, October 09, 2007  
Blogger Chuckercanuck said...

Hi K-Man,

its always funny to read gwgm because we really are twins separated at birth.

I find it so amazing that there are so many "Liberals" who are so comfortable with bashing the idea that either you fund all religious schools or none.

Maybe its the secularist Quebecker in me that still finds Ontario a complete mystery. But for all the multi-cultural braggadocio out of Toronto, it still seems to be, as me grandmama found it to be during the 40's --- disquietingly racists. Albeit in this case, religionist.

gwgm is totally right: Ontarians should be a little ashamed of themselves today.

8:53 PM, October 10, 2007  
Blogger K-Dough said...

I can't blieve you guys are supporting a crude, cheap ass political strategy to court ethnic votes like that. They were outdone by four years of Liberal catering to the 905 ethnic vote and had to make gains quick. That's where this cynical bullshit policy came from.

But it was too little too late. That party has been bankrupt of any effective, unique policy idea since Harris abandonned ship so he wouldn't take the rap for the hidden multi billion deficit.


9:01 PM, October 10, 2007  
Anonymous scout said...

i really don't care much about ontario school funding....although it all sounds stewwwwpid.....but ugh, get that man tory to afghanistan so six nations doesn't have to deal with harper's little puppet scumbag anymore.

he 'bought out' a couple of the chiefs, who then convinced a few people, and a non profit organization was formed that is 'acting' on behalf of 6n. what a scam!

heh heh, can't wait to see the clan mothers rip his hide off.

12:47 AM, October 11, 2007  
Anonymous scout said...

oops, just read the results......hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!
tory defeated in his own riding

12:51 AM, October 11, 2007  
Blogger whitenoise said...

I find the accusations of racism interesting. I guess you throw whatever insults you can when your case is weak and you're hoping to attach some taint to your opponent.

GWGM talks about rocking the boat against segregation, yet seems to encourage it here by neatly filing each student away into a segregated school system. Shouldn't we be trying to say that we're all the same and that one system should be good enough for everybody?

My personal opinion is that none of the religious-based schools should be funded from the public purse. Religion has no place in our schools, and, we already have a public school system. We're supposed to be coming together as one tolerant community, not fracturing into more tribalistic division.

4:49 AM, October 11, 2007  
Blogger K-Dough said...

Whitenoise- that is exactly the main informed policy argument against funding faith-based. That policy would have institutionalized segregation, not broken down barriers. Schools in TO are a great example of how cultures can maintain their ethnic diversity within a publicly funded system.

The Tories have a history of fostering social division- and as Dalton said last night we need to do this "together".

7:58 AM, October 11, 2007  
Blogger Leatherhands said...

Tory was only two points behind McGuinty when the campaign began. They had two fucking years to prepare for an election with a set date, and they managed to completely mangle it.
Three reasons, IMHO:
1) Tory spent all his early time and advertising dollars hammering away on the broken promises. Dude, everybody knows about the broken promises, they weren't a secret. Enough already. What are YOU going to do? (And how will you improve health care by rolling back the health care premium? Harris tried that "more services and less taxes" thing. How did that one work out for all of us, huh dufus?)

2)The faith -based foot-in-mouth debacle. And Mr. Tory, every time you stepped off a bus after that mistake, you talked about faith-based funding. Every time. Can't make the media wear that one.

3) Toronto seats are essential. Torontonians trust Tory, but thanks to the Harris legacy, wouldn't trust his party to care for their pet rock.

8:59 AM, October 11, 2007  
Blogger Leatherhands said...

You want shame, how about the 52% voter turnout. How pathetic. It ain't the system, it ain't the candidates. That's just a cop-out.
It's lazy, uninformed, indifferent morons.

10:13 AM, October 11, 2007  
Blogger K-Dough said...

Leather- totally agree- turn out was disgusting. but you know, when the economy is doing so well, people are really busy making money :P

but seriously, the whole "faith- based hijacked the campaign" thing is a cop out. McGuinty had to fight every single day- you couldn't pick up a paper without reading "Broken Promises".

The media (and both opposition parties) focussed on that theme as much or more than the faith-based issue.

10:59 AM, October 11, 2007  
Blogger Leatherhands said...

I loved how Tory hid the PC party logo on all his pamphlets, and all the PC candidates called themselve "your John Tory candidate" hoping Torontonians somehow wouldn't make the connection. Obviously it didn't work out too well.

11:16 AM, October 11, 2007  
Blogger K-Dough said...

didn't work out well? worked out fine in my opinion.

11:27 AM, October 11, 2007  
Blogger whitenoise said...

Well, gents, count me among the apathetic.

Usually, I'm a fanatic about exercising my democratic right, however, yesterday, I drove right past the polling station.

Normally I'd vote PC, but this time I just couldn't do it. And, I certainly don't care for McGuinty and the Fiberals. So, I guess I got the bunch I deserve... ;-(

11:31 AM, October 11, 2007  
Blogger Leatherhands said...

Whitenoise, I sympathise. I came very close to passing on this one, but I had to stop that slime-bucket, dick-faced, all image no substance, great at acting appalled at made-up facts Frank Klees from hanging onto his seat. Didn't work out fine for me, K-man
(I live in a PC stonghold.)

11:45 AM, October 11, 2007  
Blogger K-Dough said...

Klees is a fucking monkey. He missed his calling- he should have been a C list soap opera star.

4:02 PM, October 11, 2007  
Blogger Chuckercanuck said...


maybe you's right about it being a ethnic vote courting strategy. What do I know? Except, you either do it all or none at all.

In Quebec, we had it Cotholic vs. French for the longest time. It was retarded. As a wee lad, the closest school to my house was Protestant. Me parents asked if they could send us to that school. The principle replied, "get ex-communicated". Retarded! (Eventually, overcrowding at the catholic school got me bumped into the closer one....)

All this to say, a purely secular system should have been the Liberal response. They didn't have to say, "in this term" or anything, but simply to say, "we strive to have no funding of religious schools..."

To me, that would have been more noble.

4:46 PM, October 11, 2007  
Blogger Chuckercanuck said...


catholic vs. protestant.

4:47 PM, October 11, 2007  
Blogger Sheena said...

John Tory has bad Holiday Inn lounge American guy hair. That is why he lost.

Carry on.

5:51 PM, October 11, 2007  
Blogger Leatherhands said...

As usual, Sheena nailed it. Harper has the same hair. The part is too far on the side, resulting in the helmet thing. Why didn't I see that.

9:50 PM, October 11, 2007  
Blogger K-Dough said...

CC- I agree fully. No funding for Catholic schools. It's unfair, hypocritical and detracts from our overall philosophical goal.

10:05 PM, October 11, 2007  
Blogger Chuckercanuck said...

but Sheena is 100% correct on John Tory --- so why does the hairdo make Stephen Harper look like what Brad Pitt wishes he looked like? (If Brad Pitt gained a few pounds, of course).

1:50 PM, October 12, 2007  
Blogger dog gone it said...


It's the waves; the waviness ... makes Tory look like he's flapping in the wind.

As for Harper, his is dead straight, but you're not really focused on his hair anyway.
I don't think anyone gets past the Karla Homolka eyes ...

4:22 PM, October 12, 2007  
Anonymous scout said...

dead straight! that's it! harper and tory's hair looks like it was done up a the morgue.

12:41 PM, October 14, 2007  

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