Cave Men Wielding Only Words
Public Conscience Announcement: Sign my comments section as proof that you want armchair warrior Ottawa Sun writer Earl "Rumsfeld" McRae to be plucked from his cozy life, shaved, suited up in khaki and sent into Afghanistan with a rifle in his hands and a target on his cro-magnon forehead as soon as possible. McRae uses the fallacious Republican old boys' club argument that supporting troops means not exercising one's democratic right to express opposition to their deployment. That right to express your opposition to policy is what democracy is based on. Only macho fools say peace is for cowards. Smart people run when there is gunfire, unlike people like Stephen Harper and McRae, who stand on the sidelines and call people cowards for valuing human life.
posted by K-Dough at 7:34 AM
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I just read the article. McRae really is an idiot. Absolutely. To rail against Canadians for having an opinion that differs from his is ridiculous enough. The poll in question had nothing to do with supporting or not supporting our soldiers. It simply suggests that most Canadians want them home. We generally don't believe they are helping, and their lives are needlessly put at risk. Whether or not this is right, the poll does not even suggest that we aren't supporting the young men and women who are volunteering to put themselves at risk.
I, for one, am fine with them being there. I agree with their mandate. That doesn't mean I can't see the concern Canadians have over the operation.
This editorial is so full of crap, I think it wins as perhaps the worst, most off-the-mark, and insulting piece the Sun has ever published. Sadly, I know that's not true.
What's worse is PM Harper saying yesterday that Liberals shouldn't put their tails between their legs at the first sight of danger. He went on to say Liberals have no right to call for the troops to be pulled out because they were the party who put them there in the first place.
Just clearly demonstrates the backward thinking of ideologues, who have absolutely no understanding that policy needs to evolve in accordance with historical context.
Hamster-nutted freaks!
1. I support our troops.
2. I am proud to be Canadian.
3. Troops do not volunteer - they get paid and are assigned to their duties. If they don't agree with it, there isn't much they can do. Some soldiers don't agree with the wars to which they've been assigned.
4. Disagreeing with a war doesn't make a person anti-army, anti-Canadian, or an anti-supporter. It is a disagreement about the reason for the war. Remember Vietnam?
5. Funding and support for the Canadian Armed Forces has increased substantially in Canada for the last few years. We support our troops.
6. McRae suggests that the eulogies and memorials are not necessary for fallen Canadian soldiers when we didn't do it for the thousands of heros who gave the ultimate sacrifice in WWI & WWII. Well, thankfully for us, time has progressed and we don't experience such horrible wars anymore and don't have to deal with such enormous loss of life. One life is too many so lower the flags and pay your respects.
7. It's articles written by people like McRae that are (to throw his words back at him) affect the proud Canadian soldiers as, "wimp jelly undermining theirs of warrior steel."
8. Be proud of Canada. A Canada that allows us to have peace and happiness and be proud of our military.
Yay! (waving tiny flag and petting beaver)
I will rain on this parade of peacenicks for a second -
Harper is exactly right. Liberals have some gall to send troops to Kandahar, warn people it will be ugly and when it does turn ugly, start questioning why THEY sent them in the first place.
Are Liberal thongs getting a little tight? Me thinks so.
Also - you laugh at armchair warriors.
I laugh at armchair peacenicks. Perhaps some of you brave men should head over to Kandahar with an NGO and make love, not war, to the Tabliban. (I'm told they would be most interested in getting their hands on a smooth, white man from Ottawa - so have at 'er).
Chucker- I don't think discusing this as a partisan issue is helpful. We are talking about people's kids dying. For what? Because the US decided to invade and we followed them, because it was easier than trying to justify sending troops to Iraq. Sure there was a political context to that decision. But what do we do now?
Two thongs don't make a right. Right?
"Just clearly demonstrates the backward thinking of ideologues,"
"I don't think discusing this as a partisan issue is helpful."
Hmmmmm. Hmmmmm.
The term "ideologues", defies partisan boundaries. I am an equal opportunity insulter.
I also clearly have no problem with hypocrisy in argument as long as it suits my personal needs. I am only human, just as god, or whatever non-carbon based entity you believe in, made me.
But seriously- what is your opinion on what should be done?
I'm in favour of discussing the mission now, in public. I think Jack Layton should not wait until Parliament sits to articulate what the problem is.
Like in the United States, our country can stand some criticisms of our military action by our own citizens. To call critics "traitors" just because they are critics is pathetic.
However, Paul Martin and his Cabinet should come out in full vigour to defend the mission. To hear them second-guess themselves would be tragic.
ps. you are a very funny person.
Chucker: Stop it, I'm blushing. Or is that just my high blood pressure? I agree we need dialogue...
Harding- I'm with you.
I agree with Peter whole heartedly. (And K-dough, too, but sorta half-lungedly... and only on rodent-related issues.)
Sorry to shit on your sharing of ideas, but this whole discussion is moot. Now that they're supplied by Tim's, our boys won't be home for a long time. The corporate doughnutwhores simply won't allow it.
Would you like your apple fritter and old fashioned glazed in one bodybag or two?
Mark Something- you are certainly right about one thing. Swiss people aren't killed. As far as I know- they don't even die. Switzerland actually has a 0% mortality rate. Do you know why?
They are VAMPIRES!
Okay so I am a day late for the debate. I have also forgotten my stupid password, so it is michelina/ anonymous today.
The notion that questioning our role in Afghanistan (or anywhere in the world for that matter)is un Canadian in the midst of all this talk of democracy building really makes one want to give their head a shake. If the freedom to debate these issues doesn't have full support at home than what the heck are we doing in ohter countries?
I mean check out the American democracy spreading exercise. If only the whole world could have secret prisons, detainees with no rights whatsoever etc. then surely it would be a better place.
Point is,to question and debate why we are in Afghanistan is to be an active citizen engaged in democracy.
Question; If the Swiss are vampires why is the nightlife there so lousy?
Michelina- exactly my core point.
People who say questioning a military deployment are ignorant, and unwittingly skating the line of fascism.
You wrote:
Question; If the Swiss are vampires why is the nightlife there so lousy?
Answer: Because everbody is so drained all the time?
Isn't night time when vampires go out to get groceries?
Patrick- So if we don't act now, we're going to be invaded by Afghanistan?
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