Stripper Shakedown Stymied
Strippers in Windsor, Ontario have won a battle against a discriminatory tax (about $400 per year) they had to pay the city in order to be able to peel there. Thank god the insanity stopped there. I mean what were they planning next? Taxes on cheap bear skin rugs, knock-off perfumes, pole disinfectant and Motley Crue CDs?
Victories like these don't just fall in your lap (ba dum dum). Kudos and pasties to the clubs that fought the bylaw ending the hypocritical practice of shaking down women that many in society revile, just so those same people can enjoy lower property tax rates.
Next, it's time to legalize and regulate prostitution and all sex sector workers to protect women and the public from sleazy pimpish leeches- including a municipal government in this case- who live off the incomes of others.
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Victories like these don't just fall in your lap (ba dum dum). Kudos and pasties to the clubs that fought the bylaw ending the hypocritical practice of shaking down women that many in society revile, just so those same people can enjoy lower property tax rates.
Next, it's time to legalize and regulate prostitution and all sex sector workers to protect women and the public from sleazy pimpish leeches- including a municipal government in this case- who live off the incomes of others.
Housekeeping Note: I'd appreciate feedback from regular commenters on the comments format. Do you guys prefer the pop up or the full page version? Lemme know and I will adjust accordingly. K
posted by K-Dough at 7:37 PM
52 Comments:
Legalization doesn't really solve the issue. Legalization only makes human trafficking easier.
Suzanne- you have amazing linguistic skills for a fetus. At this rate, you'll be in grad school by the time your are 4.
Re: human trafficking - I'd like to see some stats/studies on that logical leap. Can you point our editorial staff in the direction of some proof?
Once again you lower yourself to the level of an ape.
Except even apes have some sense. You don't see apes hanging around the strip bars, do you? No. Why? Because they're locked up in the zoo, or they're in the jungle running away from hunter men who want to put them in the zoo... just like you do with women.
You want to put women in the zoo!
Oh, come on. "Exotic dancers" make the choice to strip.It's not the same as human trafficking at all. Personally, I've seen them (male and female) and find it more depressing than anything, but why should they be taxed $400? It's just wrong.
k-the pop-up format is taking a long time to load, but it could just be my crappy server.
Tough one K-dough. I, like you, had a lot of fun with strippers in the bar-band days, but I never really gave a lot of thought to prostitution, as I've never paid for sex. (Well, not directly anyway...)
My epiphany came when a very young girl (maybe 18)in Regent park basically told me she would do anything I wanted for 5 bucks; obviously desperate for money and using, what was in her mind, her only asset to get it. I was horrified, gave her all the cash in my pocket and blurted out something useless like "you should be more careful." I wondered if she took the money and happily went home, or just stuffed it away and tried to hit up the next guy who walked by. Did she need the money to feed a baby, or a crack habit? Or both? I was haunted for years. Whenever I hear the word "prostitution", I think of her young, hardened face, and wonder what's become of her.
Sure there are people in the Red light district in the Netherlands who like what they do, but how many are there because it's all they can come up with? What is the emotional impact of having sex-for-hire with multiple partners day after day? Are they really qualified to make life decisions for themselves anymore, or are they just dead inside, going through the motions?
Man, I just don't know what to think.
Smenita: I want to put you in my upcoming live sex show production at the Banana Bar in Amsterdam. It's called Naked and Stupid. Of course, you will be having sex with several live and inaminate performers, until you meet your match at the crescendo: Sven Sexhammer, the Scandinavian Dick Viking!
Pam- I think the pop up thang is taking long to load due to Google-centric adjustments made to blogger yesterday. They are fucking around with things now that they own blogspot.com.
The only sex show I'll be in of yours, KD, is the one in your dreams where you wake up in a Turkish prison with cockroaches eating your testicles...
You know the one, with me standing over you laughing because I know that the poor cockroaches are gonna go hungry.
I think cockroaches licking my bag would be a pleasant distraction in a Turkish prison. But that's just me.
Leather: You raise some good points, but I think the larger question here should be "how do we as a society/state help ameliorate the negative effects that prositution has on women - and men for that matter.
Prostitution, like crime itself, is never going away- ever.
Regulation is the only way to help protect individuals from the underground dark world of abuse and manipulation. Will it help the crack whore who sells her wares on city streets? Probably not, but what will? All we can do in those situations is to continue support programs that do outreach, crisis intervention and provide shelter.
Smenita:
Here's a quote that I'm sure will stir that thick pot of congealed fantasies currently swirling around in your gourd. Can you guess where it is from?:
Mama told me Aunt Rootie, that's Cousin Dell's mama, found cockroaches in Dell's underwear. One time, she found Dell putting one big cockroach on his anus.
I think I'd agree with that. It's sad, and it's degrading to women BUT I think there is as much or more victimization at the hands of pimps, not to mention the very real health issues for everyone. Don't forget that many johns are married (like it or not) and the STD's are a concern for more than just the hookers.
KD,
Mostly I side with you on prostitution. I have no problems, though, forcing them to pay a tax to strip. Here in Quebec, we get a welcome tax for buying a house. If strippers united to eliminate the welcome tax, then I'd be a happy camper.
Pam is right - strippers and stripping is depressing. The last time I was in a strip club, it was some joke-offs birthday. He was with his office workers (including women). They brought him on stage, stripped him down and markered up his body. He had this tiny floppy penis that made everyone in the room cringe.
How does this guy ever look at his female colleagues again? (Of course, the shame began when he consented to going to the strip club with them).
The grossest thing in strip clubs are the free buffets. I can't eat FREE food laid out next to the lesbian show.
I think cousin Dell had more than just the one problem...
Pam- Tax revenues could be dedicated to going right back into community agencies to help sex trade workers. It's the best solution for living with the evil that I can think of. If you ask others all you get is either moralistic preaching and/or callous disregard for the underclasses and society's most vulnerable.
Christ Chucker, do you have a perpetual hard-on or something? You've never been floppy? We rock guys used to call it "nervous stage dick"...when the adrenalin's pumping, and you're about to play in front of a shitload of people, your dick somehow vanishes. I swear, the shaft disappears. (Great time to wear tight spandex....)
CC: LOL re: buffets. In Ontario, we always separate the food from the vicinity of horny slobs and "exotic" dancers...
The French are so much more socially progressiive!
Leather- we used to call that the "All Head and No Neck" syndrome. Kinda like looking at a champagne cork in a bathing cap.
hell, I'm not criticizing his floppyness. I sympathize. The difference though, is I don't hop onto the stripper's stage to show a bunch of men plus the receptionist in my office just how floppy I can get.
LOL. Actual sign I remember at the Ridout in London:
"Hot buffet and Hot pussy"
Here's another good one, now that I'm on signs (from a gig in Kitchener....I took a photo of this one)
"Tonight: all u can eat Chicken Wings, and the Partland Brothers"
I have to share this shocking tid bit: I recently found that in my hometown of Oshawa, Ontario, they have passed a bylaw forbidding the operation of strip clubs. Now I don't know if any of you have been to the Shwa, but when I grew up there (ahem, maybe "grew up" wasn't the correct word useage), strip clubs were like friggin' community centres for us.
Is the Genosha still standing in some form?
Leather- In some form, I believe. That was the home to my teenagehood. Played there. Saw great acts there. Had sex there. Got blasted there. Had my first threesome there. Etc etc. You know, all hallmarks of youth.
I have to say, the banning of stripping in Oshawa is equivalent to banning the city's cultural heritage. It's ilke Buffalo without the wings or Hamilton without the lung cancer. I was absolutely appauled to think that my old community had sunk so low to have completely abandonned its roots.
I have officially been kicked out of a strip bar in Ottawa.
err... Twice.
Hmmmm. I need detes and need them now girlfriend!
What the hell were you doing? Trying to compete with the act?
hmmm...
maybe I'll do a blog post on that one later tonight
Sheena: ...or maybe you can regale myself and a few others over several alcoholic beverages very soon. Now that we are into the New Year I'm going to try to get something together for February.
Maybe something casual and pubby like the Black Bull, Pour House or Paupers or something.
So far, the bloggers I know who are interested in participating are A Little Thought from Just Society, Harding from TO Crime, myself and Leatherhands. I might be able to convince Romana King of Responsible Living and a few others to join as well.
Anyone you'd like to invite?
I'll be in Toronto in mid-Feb but I'm not going anywhere if Sheena's going to take off her clothes and get us cut off.
Even I have my limits.
pam, that's funny, because I think K-Dough's thinking, "I'm not going anywhere UNLESS Sheena takes off her clothes and gets us cut off."
It would actually be nice to have someone else around to get us cut off for a change- doncha think?
Pam- any word on dates yet?
Well, honestly I don't care if she takes any or all of her clothes off.It would be a little distracting at first, but after a few drinks I'm sure I'd forget she was naked. I'm much more concerned with getting cut off.
k-
Looks like Feb 16th weekend.
I'm in... haven't been booted from a disreputable shithole in ages... well, maybe a couple of months anyway.
I think I lost my appetite for Strip bars about 15 years ago... or maybe it was when loonies came out.
Seemed like a cruel conspiracy between feminists and the Government, designed to scare strippers into abandoning the trade as a means of avoiding the cruel punishment of a drunk fuck with a pocket full of loonies.
I remember thinking as some dickhead threw a loonie at highspeed, "how'd you like to be spread legged on a stage fucker, while I whip a loonie at your nuts"...
God help a good stripper, as she's bombed on by loonies and toonies, all aimed at her @#$*.
Wonder if they'd get workers comp. for injury? Can they sue for workplace endangerment? Shit, who knows where that loonies been? They should pass a law that says you can only pitch Fins at the poor girls.
And they say I lack a heart.
I believe I owe many of you a pint as well, but I'm landing around the last week of Feb.
JC,
That would be an "implied risk", so it's not a occupational hazard. It would fall under the same category as twisting your ankle due to 4 inch Fuck-me shoes.
How can it be an implied risk Pam? It's not like the stripper can stop the barrage of drunken bums pitching coins at her.
Although I suppose it could be argued that she doesn't need to spread her legs... but then what would fuel the loonie toss?
Poor kids, damned if they do, damned if they don't.
I dated a stripper as a lad... talk about a twisted sister. She was a shrinks receivables wet dream. Nose like a hoover vacuum too. Could find enough hiding places for my stash.
I don't think it should be illegal though... she was making a couple of grand a week, and that was in the 80's. Not bad coinage for ten-5 minute shows a day.
JC: the toonie thing is completely out of date these days. Having attending several stags in the past 2-3 years I've realized that you can not hang out at a strip club without at least $400-$500 bucks in your pocket.
Dancers would swear at you, pat you on the head and send you on your way if you ever chucked a loonie at her...
I think it would be like tipping a waitress a dime. I haven't seen anything but bills in g-strings. They'd get very heavy if they were filled with loonies and toonies.
KD, Forget about Sven for now. Smenita needs a little luvin' from Bobby Peru!
Never understood the tipping thing anyway... why waste your money tipping a girl, when you can take her out, get shitfaced and stoned, and party til dawn. It still costs $400 to $500, but at least you get laid.
LOL..not always, JC.
I had an old boss who had dinner with Xaviera Hollander. Trump that one bucko.
Pints would be a hoot. I have a coterie of online armchair mockers and snarkers with whom I partake on a semi regular basis. In both TO and Ottawa. I might bring some backup...
Feb is busy, but I will try to work it in.
Not always... damn near though. Rarely met a woman who didn't get hot and horny laughing her ass off with a half-decent guy, while she was getting drunk.
Xavier Hollander??? Lets see, she's about a million years old now, and while she most likely could teach any old dog a new trick... Hmmm, yeah, no, the "Hollander" or not, I wouldn't touch her. Spent my youth reading about her adventures. She's either done or been done by wayyyyy to many people.
Good on your boss though. People should be charitable to the elderly.
I meant "waaaaaaaaaaay" to many people.
Sheena- top that? Now, now, don't get me started recounting gorey road stories. I coud tell you things that would make your nipples curl.
The Happy Hooker is one thing...a bunch of conscienceless, depraved, horny and strung out rock fools let loose amongst the civilian population are quite another..
With long, permed hair and spandex .LMAO. Oopps, I mean...I'm *very* excited.
Ok, you're right.
Though when the boss tried to sell me that house with the set in the basement and the blacked out windows....ah you're right. Boring work stories, eh?
Look Pamela- At least I did not date said spandex sporting musicians. And a drummer no less.
Sheena- I'm very curious about the theatrical dungeon. Shave it for drinks!
Oopos, I meant save.
Oh, come on! He was a DRUMMER! How could I say no?? Besides, you could barely see the spandex behind the drums. It's not like he was the LEAD SINGER, shaking his spandexed ass for the whole of Northern Ontario or anything.
Oshawa is one of the best parts of Toronto. Thank God, my parents lived in that area only after I was on my own, but I loved visiting. Even had to go to Parksites with my mom. The tour was awesome and I realized then the standard of living to which I was meant to live.
Now Now, please don't give strippers a reason to get all fired up and speak out. Everyone knows the best kind of strippers are the kind that do not speak.
FULL PAGE PLEASE.
<3Amen.
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